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28 May 2006 @ 04:48 pm
2.3: School Hard  
Cordelia: You're starting to look a little slagged. What, are you just skipping foundation entirely now?
Buffy: Cordelia, I have at least three lives to contend with, none of which really mesh. It's kind of like oil and water and a... third unmeshable thing.
Cordelia: Yeah, and I can see the oil.


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2.3: School Hard
Writer: David Greenwalt
Director: John T. Kretchmer
U.S. Airdate: September 29, 1997



1. Angel & Spike
Spike: You think you can fool me?! You were my sire, man! You were my... Yoda!
Angel: Things change.
Spike: Not us! Not demons!

Given all that we know about Spike and Angel's relationship now, it's fascinating to consider what we have to go on from this episode, the type of assessment we would make based only on what happens in "School Hard". What are some of the assumptions Spike and Angel seem to make about one another? What are the reactions of the other characters to them in relation to each other (i.e., how does knowing about Spike change any attitudes about Angel?). How well are these episode-specific conclusions and assumptions borne out later?


2. New Vampires in Town
Spike: From now on, we're gonna have a little less ritual...and a little more fun around here.
Dru and Spike arrive in Sunnydale in "School Hard", and pretty much turn our expectations about vampires and villains on their heads. What are some of the most evident departures from other vampiric behaviors and appearances that we see? How do Spike and Drusilla demarcate themselves from other vampires -- what are the new defining moments, issues, activities? How is the show beginning to redefine villainy?


3. Mother/Daughter Relationship
Joyce: But we moved once because of you getting in trouble. And I had to start a new business, not to mention a new life in a whole new town.
Buffy: And you don't wanna do it again.
Joyce: What I don't want is to be disappointed in you again.

Buffy's relationship to Joyce, and Joyce's integration into the world of Buffy's high-school and slaying life, are central to this episode. What developments to the relationship occur during the course of "School Hard"? What more do we learn about Joyce that we didn't know before now? To what extent is the viewer sympathetic to Buffy? To Joyce? How do the adults' take on crisis differ from the students', and how do Buffy and Joyce influence their separate spheres during the vampiric siege of Sunnydale High?


Other potential topics for discussion: when does Spike realize Angel has his soul; Dru's psychic skills (also potentially in comparison to Buffy's); Spike as impatient and bored versus Spike as "thorough and goal-oriented"; the closed-set action of the middle act (all on school grounds); resemblances to Die Hard; the debate on Spike's sire; siring Shelia


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your royal pie-ness: xander/joyceentrenous88 on May 30th, 2006 08:35 pm (UTC)
I love seeing Joyce's development in this episode. We see more of how she's like Buffy (as Principal Snyder accuses her during the vampire raid of the school when Joyce tells the escaping parent "Don't be an idiot!"), and we see more of how she's like herself (as this is the first episode that we learn her name).

All that being said, when she tells Buffy she's disappointed in her? Oh man. That's harsh. It's a really startling moment for me, to hear that Buffy's mom isn't just upset with her for what's happened at her various schools (and at the burning down of this second building, though perhaps Joyce doesn't know about that yet?), but that she's disappointed. It's worse, that quiet resignation to a child that disappoints you because they've failed in their character versus anger towards a child that has done a few bad things.

And now I use my highly inappropriate Joyce/Xander icon, because I don't know where my other Joyce icon went. :)
buffysvampirebuffysvampire on May 30th, 2006 11:05 pm (UTC)
We see more of how she's like Buffy
Yeah and we also get a glimpse of how Buffy's like her mother. When Snyder tells Joyce that he can see a certain mother-daughter resemblence, it doesn't just mean that Joyce is like her daughter but also that Joyce is acting in that special way we're so well known from Buffy.
The strengh to go straight through a complicated situation and not willing a situation to been taken out of her hands is what Buffy must had learn from her mother.
(sorry for that english, but it's late and it's difficult to explain such complex train of thoughts in a voreign language)