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28 May 2006 @ 04:48 pm
2.3: School Hard  
Cordelia: You're starting to look a little slagged. What, are you just skipping foundation entirely now?
Buffy: Cordelia, I have at least three lives to contend with, none of which really mesh. It's kind of like oil and water and a... third unmeshable thing.
Cordelia: Yeah, and I can see the oil.

Prompts and questions are there to spark discussion. If they're useful or interesting to you, go ahead and respond to any aspect of them. But please feel free to bring up anything else that interests you, as long as it somehow relates to the episode under discussion.

2.3: School Hard
Writer: David Greenwalt
Director: John T. Kretchmer
U.S. Airdate: September 29, 1997

1. Angel & Spike
Spike: You think you can fool me?! You were my sire, man! You were my... Yoda!
Angel: Things change.
Spike: Not us! Not demons!

Given all that we know about Spike and Angel's relationship now, it's fascinating to consider what we have to go on from this episode, the type of assessment we would make based only on what happens in "School Hard". What are some of the assumptions Spike and Angel seem to make about one another? What are the reactions of the other characters to them in relation to each other (i.e., how does knowing about Spike change any attitudes about Angel?). How well are these episode-specific conclusions and assumptions borne out later?

2. New Vampires in Town
Spike: From now on, we're gonna have a little less ritual...and a little more fun around here.
Dru and Spike arrive in Sunnydale in "School Hard", and pretty much turn our expectations about vampires and villains on their heads. What are some of the most evident departures from other vampiric behaviors and appearances that we see? How do Spike and Drusilla demarcate themselves from other vampires -- what are the new defining moments, issues, activities? How is the show beginning to redefine villainy?

3. Mother/Daughter Relationship
Joyce: But we moved once because of you getting in trouble. And I had to start a new business, not to mention a new life in a whole new town.
Buffy: And you don't wanna do it again.
Joyce: What I don't want is to be disappointed in you again.

Buffy's relationship to Joyce, and Joyce's integration into the world of Buffy's high-school and slaying life, are central to this episode. What developments to the relationship occur during the course of "School Hard"? What more do we learn about Joyce that we didn't know before now? To what extent is the viewer sympathetic to Buffy? To Joyce? How do the adults' take on crisis differ from the students', and how do Buffy and Joyce influence their separate spheres during the vampiric siege of Sunnydale High?

Other potential topics for discussion: when does Spike realize Angel has his soul; Dru's psychic skills (also potentially in comparison to Buffy's); Spike as impatient and bored versus Spike as "thorough and goal-oriented"; the closed-set action of the middle act (all on school grounds); resemblances to Die Hard; the debate on Spike's sire; siring Shelia

If you're interested in guest-moderating for a future episode discussion at episodic_buffy, visit this entry and see which s2 eps are still available (as we get further along in s2, we'll open up s3 to guest-mod requests as well).

Because most of the people who weighed in seemed to support this option, our discussions will now take place once a week, in order to give everyone time to respond to the conversation and to watch the episode. Future posting days opening discussion will be Mondays. Thanks to those who provided feedback on that issue.
your royal pie-ness: Xander green Entre (me)entrenous88 on May 30th, 2006 08:08 pm (UTC)
You might just want to jump into the discussion rather than posing discussion questions (though hey, good form for the week when you are the one posing topics *g*).
buffysvampirebuffysvampire on May 30th, 2006 10:38 pm (UTC)
I had to do that, because if I'm not writing it down, the moment it pops up in my mind the next moment I totally forgot about it.

Btw: I yesterday got the info that I'm in hospital from 12.06 until 16.06
But I think that's exactly the week of my topic, isn't it? *cries*
I can post the questions for this episode, no problem, but I'm not present during the week to follow it as consequent as I like to.
So maybe it's better for me to choose another one and let go of this (though it would be one of my favourites).
your royal pie-ness: XanderEntre (xmirax)entrenous88 on May 30th, 2006 11:57 pm (UTC)
I welcome everyone's thoughts on the discussion, but if you're worried about forgetting questions, you could also save it to your own LJ, right?

Yeah, perhaps another topic/week would be better. Let's get back to that another time and perhaps figure out an alternative.
zandra_x on May 31st, 2006 06:10 pm (UTC)
I'm sorry to hear about the hospital thing. I hope everything goes well. And don't worry there are plenty of episodes left.
buffysvampirebuffysvampire on May 31st, 2006 06:14 pm (UTC)
Sure there are, but that episode is one of all I really so wanted to discuss, and now I'm in hospital for a whole week.
And I hope, everything goes well, too.